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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 2, 2008 5:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

Bird Song.

Its a pretty song yet it can also jam a little. Okay, the same could be said for Eyes but do you think Eyes would have worked as an acoustic number? Probably not like this:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-10-16.sbd.vinson.1217.sbeok.shnf

Ah but other dead songs were fantastic both electric and acoustic like FOTD. Thats true but Bird Song was also great with horns. Could any of those other great acoustic tunes worked with Branford or any of the other sax players who joined the band on stage through the years? Most people turn to this show for the Eyes, I think Bird Song may even be better.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03-29.sbd.nawrocki.3389.sbeok.shnf

So Bird Song is pretty, can jam, be played acoustic and goes well with horns. Let's not forget that I don't think I ever heard a version that was "off" either. Can any other Dead tune come close to this? The only one that might have was WRS>LIG. No they never played it acoustic but on the re-release of WOTF there is a bonus track of Bobby's acoustic demo of the whole suite that suggests that it could have worked as an acoustic number. They did it with horns after the release of WOTF in fall of 73 but honestly I didn't really like it too much.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-09-11.sbd.lanum.184.sbeok.shnf

So if it works acoustic, electric, jammed, with horns and every time they played it does that make Bird Song the best song? Not sure but it was clearly one of the best for displaying all of their talents.

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Mar 3, 2008 12:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

Set placement: Touch of grey. Song was played just about every portion...1st set opener, mid first set, first closer, 2nd set opener, 2nd set closer, encore.

Honorable mention to Bertha too.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Mar 3, 2008 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

I nominate Franklin's Tower.

started as the climax to the great Help > Slip > Frank jam

http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-06-17.bertrando.unknown.233.sbeok.shnf

took a turn as a stand-alone encore

http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-06-09.set2-sbd.gardner.5426.sbeok.shnf

back to Help > Slip > Frank

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-06-09.28614.sbeok.flac16

to a stand-alone opener

http://dead.net/features/tapers-section/may-7-may-13-2007

to a post drums Wharf Rat > Franklin's

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-07-08.sbd.unknown.294.sbeok.shnf

to the closer for the outstanding Dancin > Franklin's jam

http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-11-09.sbd.stern.318.sbeok.shnf

to the stand-alone Dead Set version

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sEniyvOtETc

back to Help > Slip > Frank

http://www.archive.org/details/gd83-04-26.sbd.parrillo.2606.sbeok.shnf

to the Stranger > Frank

http://www.archive.org/details/gd88-09-03.sbd.miller.27749.sbeok.flacf

and back to Help > Slip > Frank

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-09-19.sbd.ashley.14674.sbeok.shnf

and I'm sure I missed a few along the way.

This post was modified by Death&Mercy on 2008-03-03 21:51:04

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Poster: mcglone Date: Mar 2, 2008 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

adding to the versatility factor - the varying approaches they take with the songs intro. be it lazy strumming into the riff or jumping in head first (reckoning). china doll kinda fit's your mold too. certainly delicate and pretty, but with dark overtones (both musically and lyrically) and on that rare occation they do jam it out a little. i believe deadn73 posted a sweet version last year that really jammed out... i'm thinking '81? it's a shame they never ripped up an acoustic eyes.

ian

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Mar 2, 2008 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

dark star. there is an acoustic studio version on here somewhere. pretty neat. dark star could really be taken in so many directions. sure, you need a few ds themes here and there to officially call it dark star, not even lyrics, because there are some without words. there was certainly enough space for horns, and what have you, in them. why not dark star? though bird song is probably a better choice.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Mar 2, 2008 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

too

can b raw & mighty & 9 min short
http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-04-21.sbd.clugston.66.sbeok.shnf
or
40 min masterful free form improvisation
dp 23
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-09-17.aud-wolfson.minches.28165.shnf
or
simply grate
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-01-22.sbd.popi.4974.sbeok.shnf
or
spaaaaced ouuuut
http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-07-29.fob-senn421.wise.4981.sbeok.shnf
or
fantastic w/slight vocal fuck up
http://www.archive.org/details/gd89-08-19.sbd.5213.sbeok.shnf
or
etc........

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Poster: pml Date: Jun 15, 2008 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

Show at the Greek 1989-08-19 - you are so right - fantastic show - especially great memories of being there. Thnx. sfpete

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2008 6:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

Hmmm--was thinking that one of my early era tunes would be a great candidate for this award, BUT reading your description, I don't think so...didn't realize how much range in terms of band approaches to tunes was available in the last 25 yrs of the Boys.

Cool.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Mar 2, 2008 10:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

if you apply the term versatility to the Dead's set placement choices, Morning Dew and Terrapin could be seen as the most versatile, both tunes have been used as show openers, second set openers, pre drums, post drums shows closers and encores...

versatility in terms of song evolution might go to a tune like Cassidy or Eyes of the World...

however, Playin is probably the most versatile altogether...it's been used all over their sets, used as a jam, played as a stand alone, played into drums, jam always varying...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Mar 2, 2008 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

hey Strat. I was going to start a thread saying that Playin is THE greatest jam vehicle the band ever had. The fact that they became bored with with Dark Star and put it down prroves it to me. No other tune they played provided as intersting and varied jams for that long of a duration.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 3, 2008 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

Johnny, I agree about PITB being a better jam vehicle than Dark Star and maybe a more versatile jam vehicle as well which is what i think Strat was suggesting. Maybe I am looking at things with 30 years of perspective and no interesting chemicals on board but I think most Dark Stars in 73 and 74 simply got too spacey, almost to the point of it being noise. This never happened with PITB and because the jams were a bit more thematic it was amenable to making sandwiches with like when they would slap a UJB in the middle. I know there a are a few split DS but I personally don't think they worked as well. However I do feel that PITB was basically a jam vehicle (except in 71) where Bird Song could be many different things.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Mar 3, 2008 8:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

yeah but donna never ruined a dark star. i'll take guitar feedback over donna's wailing any old day.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 3, 2008 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: My vote for most versatile song by the Grateful Dead goes to...

from most accounts, Donna was doing what she was asked to do by Jerry during PITB so I don't think she was trying to ruin it. Actually I never found Donna's screaming during PITB to be so difficult to swallow and besides they only lasted a few seconds. Scarlet Begonias is another story. That wailing lasts longer and is kind of annoying.